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Post by stlfan on Dec 31, 2007 18:37:35 GMT -5
Hey Marc,
Can you send that story to the people at USAH? Maybe they'll get the idea if you send it with your note!!! Why is it that everyone outside of the program sees this, but they don't?
OK, probably not, but it really makes you wonder.
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Post by Marc Foster on Dec 31, 2007 20:10:00 GMT -5
Well, if they were to stop, the next question becomes what to do with the money. I don't know that I have an answer. I think most folks are familiar with the conceptual talent pyramid - as you ascend to higher levels the quality of the players increases, but the width of the pyramid becomes narrower because you have fewer and players at each subsequent level. The USA has a great base, comparable to Canada's. Sure we are a larger country but numbers are numbers. Our pyramid is even as high as Canada's - our top 25 players can hold their own (in a given age group) with Canada. What Canada has on us, however, is a wider top - akin to bench depth. Their next 25, 50, 75, etc... are better than ours. That is where I think our focus should be. The NTDP made the US talent pyramid taller, but it's going to take a 20+ team USHL and a solid and stable Tier II (NAHL or whoever else comes along) to make the pyramid wider at the top. Right now it's like the spire on the Chrysler Building. So, the question remains, how to leverage those millions on widening the top. And I'm not just talking about the NTDP money. I think the USHL and NCAA should be getting a piece of the NHL's draft pie as well. For the NCAA draftees, the money would go to USA Hockey and pool with the old NTDP funds. I've run numbers based on recent drafts and getting a slice of the draft money effectively doubles your financial resources. An added bonus of funding NCAA draftees is USA hockey would be getting more money for Canadian NCAA players than the CHL gets for their imported Americans. If most (60%-70%) of the money (and all 40 players) went to the USHL, you're maybe adding about 10%-15% to their bottom line/budget, and an average of two players per roster (at 20 teams). You don't think the USHL would benefit from that added depth? You don't think that those additional dollars can't fund an additional full-time coaching staff member and leave plenty left over for the latest training and technological advances in the game? How many USHL/NAHL teams are breaking down their game tape with Gamebreaker or some equivalent system? They all should! I count 26 Canadian and only 7 US Tier I/II teams using it. The one coach I know who uses it swears by it, the best developmental investment they've ever made. Okay, I've gone off on enough tangents. There's a blog essay in here somewhere. My apologies to any Canadians here for my jingoism. |
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Post by simontemplar on Jan 1, 2008 16:17:34 GMT -5
Marc I have a question.
Does NAHL/ USHL teams get draft money now ? I thought teams like London ( OHL ) recieved close to 10,000 for each of Kane, Gagner, Perry recently.
They also get money for Meckler, Methot, Prust, Larman, Syvret, Fritsche, Denis all since 2005.
It adds up to a lot of money for smaller teams like NAHL, USHL and some small market CHL teams.
Hey that article from the Free Press kind of made things in a bad light. Yes many CHL personnel were present but it's the world under 17 and we expect them there.
Also point out about a dozen of those US players have already been drafted by CHL teams. They are there to see the players who were not drafted.
And this cross border rival is good for everyone it keeps the players on the radar. The NCAA also have a lot of Canadian Kids.
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Post by Marc Foster on Jan 1, 2008 23:50:48 GMT -5
I think they get more than that... the NHL draft pool is about $6M/year, and there's only 59 CHL teams. Obviously the higher your kid goes, the more money you get.
USHL/NAHL/NCAA teams don't get any money.
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Post by stlfan on Jan 2, 2008 11:32:11 GMT -5
I think they get more than that... the NHL draft pool is about $6M/year, and there's only 59 CHL teams. Obviously the higher your kid goes, the more money you get. USHL/NAHL/NCAA teams don't get any money. Marc, are you sure about that? I thought I heard that even the CSHL got money when Paul Stastny signed with Colorado. |
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Post by Marc Foster on Jan 2, 2008 15:05:03 GMT -5
That's some serious trickle-down... but I don't see how. He wasn't taken from whatever CSHL team e might have been on, or even from Omaha, but from DU. Does that trickle-down go all the way to who he played mites for?
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